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Inspired by Your Browsing History. Related Articles. Looking for More Great Reads? Download Hi Res. LitFlash The eBooks you want at the lowest prices. Read it Forward Read it first. Pass it on! Stay in Touch Sign up. Just remember the egghead is the patient, and he thinks he is dead but is pronounced alive by the doctors and treated by frying the egg. Don't fry the egg. Aug 24, Ryan rated it it was amazing Recommends it for: nobody. Apr 03, Stephanie rated it it was amazing. The book starts off very theoretical, but once you get past the beginning it becomes entirely absorbing.
It entirely changed my perspective from which to view mental illness, in a good way -- basically, Laing posits that we're all alienated from ourselves in some shape or form; those labelled schizophrenic just express this alienation in forms non-acceptable to mainstream society. His ideas were very liberating for me. Shelves: psychology. This is a short collection which, as I recall, contains the most substantial piece I've seen by Laing about psychedelic drugs.
I read the thing in the midst of studying a lot of other work by him and his colleagues in "the antipsychiatry movement" in the context of doing independent study work in the nebulous field of "humanistic psychology" in college. The essay, "The Bird of Paradise", appears to have been written under the influence. One of the best books I have ever read, where Laing exposes the real nature of our social madness.
The world in which we live, inevitably leads us to alignment, and make us blind. Therefore, the experience of each other are inaccessible, invisible, and interpreted through the observed behavior. Laing says that psychiatrists have paid very little attention to the experience of the patient and the diagnosis, psychotherapy and treatment One of the best books I have ever read, where Laing exposes the real nature of our social madness.
Laing says that psychiatrists have paid very little attention to the experience of the patient and the diagnosis, psychotherapy and treatment of madness schizophrenia needs a new approach. We need to reconsider our understanding of our social reality, self-alienation and the relativity of experience and behavior to diagnose who is insane, and who do not. Aug 05, Roberta McDonnell rated it it was amazing. Even more mindblowing!! What started out as a promising and innovative read has turned out to be a disappointment.
While Laing's writing is much clearer than many other psychoanalyst's I've come across, the evidence for his claims is shotty at best. The Politics of Experience is a book that tries to fundamentally tackle the claim that mental illness particularly schizophrenia is a natural reaction to an insane human social world. While a part of me would like to believe this - as to do so implies that mental illness What started out as a promising and innovative read has turned out to be a disappointment.
While a part of me would like to believe this - as to do so implies that mental illness is curable without medication - there is simply too much evidence favoring the reality that schizophrenia is genetically inherited. In this, Laing's work, while well intentioned, argues against what I believe is in the best interest of those suffering from schizophrenia. Understandably, asylums in the 60's when this book was written were far from pleasant, and in this I give Laing a pass - asylums were perhaps doing more harm than good!
Unfortunately, I cannot say I agree with the book's core point. I believe sufferers of schizophrenia need help and social support from trained professionals.
Both suicide and depression are strongly correlated with schizophrenia and to believe that schizophrenics would be best off without professional help from institutions is naive. Jan 22, Camille rated it liked it. A very difficult read, it speaks to its time, the 60's. He mixes talk about mental illness with social theory. I had trouble following it.
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But I think you should give it a shot. Jul 15, Osama Mehmood rated it really liked it. The dreadful has already happened! Aug 04, Sean A. I haven't really read anything quite like this before and found it very insightful. The part that kicks off the book with defining experience and the way interpersonal experience can be strident and tricky was excellent and set a great tone.
I thought perhaps, however, his thesis that schizophrenia was a sort of right of passage that just needs those who suffer to come out the other side was somewhat challenging and edgy, but wonder how someone who presumably doesn't suffer from the disorder can I haven't really read anything quite like this before and found it very insightful. I thought perhaps, however, his thesis that schizophrenia was a sort of right of passage that just needs those who suffer to come out the other side was somewhat challenging and edgy, but wonder how someone who presumably doesn't suffer from the disorder can say to those who suffer that they just need to look at their experiences in a different light, as well as downplaying the idea of curing what I still think is a disease of sorts.
Still a lot of unique and valuable and dare-i-say revolutionary ideas for those interested in taking a step closer at looking at mental health as well as the malcontents of civilization. May 28, James rated it did not like it Shelves: psychologistical. You can feel the feverishness of the writing as soon as it begins. Nonsensical in parts - a lot of words to communicate ideas that are neither complex nor thoroughly thought.
The sky is blue and blue is not sky, sky is not blue. The sky exists and it is blue. This made me laugh: The relevance of Freud to our time is largely his insight and, to a very considerable extent, his demonstration that the ordinary person is a shrivelled, desiccated fragment of what a person can be. I admit I haven't read this in years, not since my youth. I barely remember you. But I do remember you were one of those books that pretty much completely altered my perception of reality. And now that I've been out of therapy for a number of years I can say that remnants of that shattering are still there, and really more important now.
Now that the "madness of morality" is a lot more evident in this world. Even looking on later psychological events, like say the infamous Stanford Prison Experi I admit I haven't read this in years, not since my youth. Even looking on later psychological events, like say the infamous Stanford Prison Experiment, becomes looking at madness as not something exclusive to "insane people" but to everyone at some point. Also, I seem to remember that Laing is a wonderfully compact writer, those hardest of writers to find that can do that well.
May 12, Thadd rated it liked it. A disturbing, compelling book about Schizophrenia, a disease that is hard to treat. Because mental health professionals know so little about the brain, helping Schizophrenics is difficult. This book raises interesting questions. Are Schizophrenics crazy or are they enlightened individuals who don't fit in? Feb 20, Robert Wullenschneider rated it it was amazing. May 12, Christine rated it it was amazing. Quite Jungian in my mind It can leave you feeling that you understand a concept simply because you're only carried along by the cadence of the prose. There is an element of validity to Laing's thesis that society is insane but it's presented at a superficial level and is cloaked in the radical coffee house banter of the Vietnam era that, at times, has the academic preachiness of a screed.
Nonetheless, the text can be more useful in understanding the cultural mindset of that period than it can in helping understand and treat schizophrenia. Laing's ideas easily dovetail with the early prophets of the drug culture such as Leary and Castaneda. According to Laing, schizophrenia has its origins in the separation between our inner self bereft of substance, our outer self bereft of meaning i.
The Gadarene Swine Fallacy which seems to have originated by him. It is here that we see the outlines of Lessing's novel and his own subtle references to drug induced exploration of the 70s culture. Chapter 7 is a clinical transcription of a recovered schizophrenic patient and, although mundane, is helpful in understanding that a patient can occupy two worlds and can recollect the emotional impact of both. For being over 50 years, it is still a brilliant book and enlightening on matters such as schizophrenia by calling into question the concepts of what is normal and what is not.
How we have become who we are and how our experiences of the world are shaped by the notion of society. Although, I disagree with the idea of each baby being born being a stone age baby getting born into today's age and thus having to have everything put onto them as their concepts are very close to that of a blank slate.
I agree with the idea that "We are not so much concerned with experiences of 'filling a gap' in theory or knowledge, of filling up a hole, of occupying an empty space.
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It is not a question of putting something into nothing , but of creating something out of nothing. Ex nihilo. The no thing out of which the creation emerges, at its purest, is not empty space or an empty stretch of time. Jul 15, Janet rated it liked it. I think Laing is at his best when he describes the effects of society on individuals with great analytical clarity as he does in the chapters 'The mystification of experience' and 'Us and them' , hence the aptly named "The politics of experience", and at his worst when he talks about the self-healing effects of psychotic episodes see chapters 'Transcendental experience' 2,5 stars This book is certainly important and at times refreshingly experimental, but I can't bring myself to really like it.
I think Laing is at his best when he describes the effects of society on individuals with great analytical clarity as he does in the chapters 'The mystification of experience' and 'Us and them' , hence the aptly named "The politics of experience", and at his worst when he talks about the self-healing effects of psychotic episodes see chapters 'Transcendental experience' and 'A ten-day voyage'. But maybe I am just too alienated from the my? Shelves: owned. Written half a century ago, Laing's brilliant work captures the very essence of the great dilemma of modern humanity: what is real, and how can we truly understand and relate to our own experiences and the experiences and selves of others?
What is really psychological illness, and what is merely connection to a different perception of reality? A marvelous challenge to each of us to search both within and without for truth and our connections to the world, and the people, around us. Jun 24, Hao Ca Vien rated it it was amazing. Laing, a doctor in the practice of psychiatry, is a poet of a logician who detail out a great analysis of human society.
He adventures into the deep minds of men especially those disturbed and shows that in our great "Age of Darkness", conditions like the "broken soul" are unavoidable. Laing's treatise is a good enlightening read filled with wit and good humor, best read with a cup of tea.
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Sep 07, Finn Dickinson rated it liked it. Highly pretentious and self-important, The Politics of Experience is worth reading if only for its comparatively lucid and deeply insightful meditations on schizophrenia and the psychotic experience, in chapters 5 and 7 respectively. The Bird of Paradise is like some kind of Dadaist spiel which is still somehow funny, depressing and baffling in equal measure. Gee whiz. Took me about 9 years to get through this schizophrenic book. Lots of ideas that, when read, related to that moment in time when I picked up the book at the dog-eared page.
Style is stop-start, self-indulgent. This is trash, and is undeserving of any further comment or analysis.
May 10, Sebastian Gil rated it liked it Shelves: psychology. Reflection on transcendence vs therapy. Feb 06, Gaz rated it liked it. Interesting for his articulation of an existential approach to psychology but not sufficiently thought through to convince. There are no discussion topics on this book yet. Readers also enjoyed. About R. Ronald David Laing was a Scottish psychiatrist who wrote extensively on mental illness — in particular, the subjective experience of psychosis.
Laing's views on the causes and treatment of serious mental dysfunction, greatly influenced by existential philosophy, ran counter to the psychiatric orthodoxy of the day by taking the expressed feelings of the individual patient or client as valid descrip Ronald David Laing was a Scottish psychiatrist who wrote extensively on mental illness — in particular, the subjective experience of psychosis. Laing's views on the causes and treatment of serious mental dysfunction, greatly influenced by existential philosophy, ran counter to the psychiatric orthodoxy of the day by taking the expressed feelings of the individual patient or client as valid descriptions of lived experience rather than simply as symptoms of some separate or underlying disorder.
Laing was associated with the anti-psychiatry movement although he rejected the label.
Books by R. Trivia About The Politics of E No trivia or quizzes yet. Quotes from The Politics of E It may also be break-through. It is potential liberation and renewal as well as enslavement and existential death. It is radically estranged from the structure of being. Welcome back.